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Why Listening is Harder Than Talking – Conversation Principle #4

By Mary Jane Copps | July 7, 2026

Listening is not hearing words; it’s giving someone your full attention. One key finding from our 2026 Real-Time Business Conversation Index is that organizations place enormous value on real-time conversations. Yet many struggle to conduct them effectively. This has me constantly asking, “Why?” One obvious answer relates to the most … Read more

A Service Call and a Five-Minute Meeting

By Mary Jane Copps | June 2, 2026

One of the things I’m always doing as “The Phone Lady” is paying attention to my phone experiences, especially those that relate to customer service and sales. A Small Customer Service Mystery Several weeks ago, something strange started to happen when I recorded my personal voicemail message. You know what … Read more

Your Sales Success Starts Before the Conversation Begins

By Mary Jane Copps | August 8, 2025

When Selling Feels Uncomfortable Many of my clients are people who never, ever imagined themselves “selling” anything. They are: Owners of startups, passionate and knowledgeable about the product they’ve created, but now facing the reality that they need to generate revenue Franchisees with deep knowledge of their product or service, … Read more

“Just”: The Small Word That Shrinks Your Impact

By Mary Jane Copps | August 8, 2025

There’s a four-letter word that slips into our sentences far too often. It’s small, polite, and seems harmless. But it quietly undermines our confidence every time we use it. That word is “just“. “I’m just checking in to see if you got my email.”“I just want to ask if you have … Read more

Strategies for Difficult Conversations – Part VII

By Mary Jane Copps | January 11, 2025

Over the holidays, I had a lot of conversations. Some were on the phone, others were on camera and I enjoyed them all. And many of them included interesting communication challenges. This reminded me of a blog series I did back in 2018, which focused on difficult conversations. I began … Read more

Two Words That Limit What We Learn

By Mary Jane Copps | October 19, 2024

Successful people ask better questions, and as a result, they get better answers.  Tony Robbins Great questions are essential to building trust, loyalty and thriving businesses. Why? The questions we ask allow us to gather the best possible information when: we are validating a new business idea, are having a discovery … Read more

Voicemail Messages Made Easy

By Mary Jane Copps | April 27, 2024

Recently, the number of incoming calls I’m receiving has increased. These are not necessarily scam callers. The majority are coming from local numbers during business hours. Yet no one is leaving a message. This is driving me crazy! Being “The Phone Lady”, I do make it a priority to answer … Read more

Let’s Get Comfortable with Phone Conversations

By Mary Jane Copps | April 6, 2024

Over the past few weeks, I’ve been thinking about the word ‘comfortable’. Over 10% of the CEOs and senior executives who responded to the 2024 Report of Phone Communication Trends included this word in their comments. Here are a few examples of how the word was used: “Employees are often … Read more

One Simple Skill To Improve Every Outbound Call

By Mary Jane Copps | September 9, 2023

In the summer before my last year of high school, I landed my first job that involved answering a telephone. It was in the administrative offices of an iron ore mine in Northern Ontario. This was 48 years ago, in 1975. It was a time when there were hard and … Read more

Creating a Great Impression, Miscommunication & Getting Answers

By Mary Jane Copps | July 9, 2023

Whether it’s part of your work in sales or customer service, or phone conversations are part of your job search strategy, you want to continually practice the skills for creating a great impression. You also want to know ways to deal with a wide variety of communication hazards, such as … Read more

The Case for Over-Communicating

By Mary Jane Copps | May 28, 2023

Since March 30 I’ve been constantly thinking about an email I received from my dear friend and colleague, Natasha Marchewka. Natasha is definitely one of life’s constant learners and she’ll often send me things she’s discovered. In this case, it was a quote from James Clear, author of the best-selling … Read more

Opportunity Needs You to Get Gritty

By Mary Jane Copps | April 15, 2023

Throughout my 17 years as The Phone Lady, I’ve preached the value of consistent follow up. We do the work of listening to our clients and creating proposals or quotes in a timely manner. We also need to do the work of learning from their feedback and hearing their answer. … Read more

8 Ways to Practice Profound Listening

By Mary Jane Copps | February 19, 2022

“Years ago, I worked for an amazing HR Director who always seemed to hear what I wasn’t saying. She truly taught me about the power of listening.” – Leighann Joseph This message was sent to me late last year by Leighann Joseph of Living Loud Coaching, and I am continually … Read more

Tap Into Your Intuition

By Mary Jane Copps | February 5, 2022

In the early ’80s, when Toronto’s Spadina Avenue was still home to some of the very best Jewish delicatessens in the country, I entered the lobby of a heritage building. I was there to pick up the final prints from a friend’s recent photo shoot. While it wasn’t a tall … Read more

You Can – and Must – Improvise

By Mary Jane Copps | December 18, 2021

As our computers and telephones have merged and landed in our hands instead of on a desk, an unintended consequence has surfaced. We are tapping and scrolling and writing and reading more than we are talking. This means there’s a lot of “communication” happening but it doesn’t necessarily result in … Read more

Acknowledging Nuance in our Communication

By Mary Jane Copps | November 7, 2021

Nuance is such an elegant, fancy word. It conjures up images of ballet and opera, poetry and classical music. And we might associate it with the work of great actors too, like Elizabeth Moss or Meryl Streep. Nuance is certainly connected with all these things. And it plays an important … Read more

Ignite Your Curiosity

By Mary Jane Copps | October 3, 2021

Storyfinding allows us to create communication and service excellence with both prospects and customers. The first element is curiosity, which is a HUGE topic. This video includes more information about curiosity, as well as examples of how it can be used … or not. Enjoy the video and do subscribe … Read more

Curiosity Did Not “Kill The Cat”!

By Mary Jane Copps | September 26, 2021

“Curiosity is the engine of achievement.” Sir Ken Robinson Allowing curiosity to guide our conversations is the first step of storyfinding. With both prospects and customers, curiosity helps us clarify and deliver on expectations, reveal additional ways to serve and work together, and continually build on the all-important elements of … Read more

Discover Storyfinding + Examples

By Mary Jane Copps | September 19, 2021

The comparison between storytelling and storyfinding created feedback and excitement here on this blog, and also on social media and directly via email. Thanks! In my 16 years teaching communication skills, I’ve always focused on the importance of asking great questions. And on constantly improving one’s ability to deeply listen. … Read more

Storytelling vs Storyfinding

By Mary Jane Copps | September 12, 2021

Circa 1963: I’m sent to bed early, where I strain my ears to catch every sound, word and movement of my uncles and dad in the living room below. There is the rattle of ice and the splash of rye or rum, the click of lighters for both cigars and … Read more

Top Three Sales Skills and How To Practice Them

By Mary Jane Copps | April 24, 2021

How do we become really good at something? Whether it is baking or golf or Minecraft, we all improve our skills by doing, by practicing. The same is true of sales. And we don’t need a special time or place to practice our sales skills. We can do it anytime. … Read more

Strengthen Your Sales Process: Your Discovery Call

By Mary Jane Copps | February 13, 2021

Recently a dear friend and colleague approached me looking for some sales advice. She was concerned about a potential client’s reaction – or lack of reaction – to a proposal she’d sent. She believed it was exactly what the potential client wanted, and needed. So why hadn’t an enthusiastic “yes” … Read more

Are You Talking Too Much?

By Mary Jane Copps | November 15, 2020

“Our job isn’t to tell customers everything all at once. It’s to make them curious to learn more.” – Bernadette Jiwa It isn’t easy to admit we talk too much. Sometimes we are unaware this is our challenge. Perhaps we’ve been taught, or assumed, that providing prospects and customers with … Read more

4 Ways to Help Others Hear You

By Mary Jane Copps | October 31, 2020

“Communication is not saying something; communication is being heard.” – Frances Hesselbein We’ve all had the experience of speaking to someone and, much to our surprise and/or frustration, they don’t hear us at all. Even in a quiet setting, when we’ve chosen our words carefully, they seem to go missing … Read more

Practical Advice for 4 Common Communication Challenges

By Mary Jane Copps | October 17, 2020

One of the things I love about my work is its diversity. This past week I delivered webinars to global, North American, national and local audiences. Fun, right? What stood out for me was the similarity in the feedback on all of these presentations. The same word was used time … Read more

One Word or Two?

By Mary Jane Copps | October 10, 2020

In Canada this is Thanksgiving weekend, a  holiday also celebrated by our US neighbours (in just over 6 weeks) as well as in Brazil, Grenada, Saint Lucia, Liberia, Leiden in South Holland, Norfolk Island and Puerto Rico. It stems from a tradition of celebrating and giving thanks for the harvest, … Read more

What’s In A Name? Everything!

By Mary Jane Copps | September 19, 2020

It’s happened to all of us. We’ve called somewhere, perhaps a customer service centre, or a government department, or a company we are thinking about hiring. A person answers, or we reach their voicemail, and their name is so muffled, said so quickly, that we have no idea what we … Read more

Powerful Words: The Reason For My Call

By Mary Jane Copps | September 10, 2020

One of the most important “tricks” to effective telephone communication lies in acknowledging this simple fact: every phone call is an interruption. While this was true when I began my career on the phone (1987), people still had “space” in their day. They could, and would, find time to listen … Read more

What Are Your Great Questions?

By Mary Jane Copps | August 21, 2020

Interesting and valuable conversations are often easily created with family, friends and colleagues. Can we create this same level of communication with prospects and clients? How do we inspire conversations that build trust and relationships, and deliver value to everyone? The answer is in the questions. Great conversations come from … Read more

Lack of Confidence = Miscommunication

By Mary Jane Copps | August 16, 2020

“Communication is not saying something. Communication is being heard.” – Frances Hesselbein – Many of you already know my “just” story.  At the age of 28, building my first business and making outbound calls across the country, I was shocked to discover that turning a great conversation into a sale … Read more

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